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Raymond Adams's avatar

Reform are the only Party at the moment who can win in Makerfield against dreadful AndyPandy . Restore are still in short trousers and can't shave yet . Their candidate is heartfelt but a novice at the politics game as is old Rupert . The only point of this election is to keep Liebour out . Only Reform have that capacity as has been shown by the council election results

Restore won no seats in the Yarmouth local elections . Check it out.

Luke Jones's avatar

That is a blatant lie im afraid to tell you. The Restore candidates one all the seats they fought for with 50% of the votes.

jon's avatar

Well said , I was a candidate who refused to stand down in 2019. I've seen how good people have been driven out of Reform, me included. Restore is our last hope.

David Redfern's avatar

Is there any evidence for 130,000 Restore members other than Roopert bragging about it on X?

Roopert has around five years of political experience (and that's being generous), most of it thanks to Nigel Farage. His policies are plagiarised almost word for word from Reform, other than for some additional outrageous and, frankly, ridiculous promises.

His seat on the Public Accounts Committee was handed to him by the Tories in an attempt to raise his profile and attract a membership to combat Reform.

In the highly unlikely event that Roopert were ever to win the 2029 general election, the civil service would eat him for breakfast. He has no clue how the civil service operates, and he has no senior politicians in his party who know anything about it either.

The collective experience of the Tories and Labour has not succeeded in dealing with the blob either, so I guess Roopert is in good company.

Reform is the only party developing a process to deal with the civil service, which is what Danny Kruger is responsible for. But he's not alone; Braverman, Jenrick and others have years of experience dealing with the blob. Kruger has already put the civil service on notice that the declaration to go on strike if Reform is elected will mean they have no job to return to.

Whilst Roopert puffs out his chest and blusters about the miracles he'll perform, Reform are doing the hard work in the background.

Where is Roopert's plan to deal with the civil service?

You can find Reform's developing proposals here https://preparingforgovernment.com

Mary barnes's avatar

I just think Rupert Lowe is picking the wrong time to put a candidate forward. It feels like he is emulating Labour and putting himself before country

Luke Jones's avatar

Restore are in no real position to win anything. The most likely outcome is Reform picking up about 5% and stopping Reform winning.

Anders's avatar

Should I pre-order popcorn and nibbles?

Michele Spong's avatar

Spain for one, and the Netherlands provided your written and spoken Dutch reaches a specific standard.

Iain Macintosh's avatar

The BRINO whining continues. The right could never agree what Brexit stood for and still don’t. You lot should have been left to fight it out instead of presenting any given fantasy to the British people. I can’t believe we are here again.

Pamela Watson's avatar

Didn't finish reading after you started telling lies. Restore does not have a single elected member except Lowe who was originally elected under a Reform banner. Those councillors were elected as Greater Yarmouth Independants.

Reform acknowledges my right to consider myself British and are not racist. Too many Restore supporters call me a foreigner. Charlie Downes certainly does. You want to take away my right to any government benefits (presumably my pension as well) because I also hold an Aussie passport. I've had your supporters tell me I should have no right to stand as a councillor or MP or work in a government job because I'm Australian. FFS my grandfather was born a British citizen in 1889 because Australia didn't even exist yet, but because he wasn't born in England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland THAT DOESN'T COUNT. He was really a foreigner? His nationality was an illusion?

Reform's policies "don't go far enough" for you because they are grounded in reality. What is actually possible. Not grandiose, pie in the sky wish lists. And you're prepared to let Andy Burnham be elected and inflict years more socialist hell on the UK for what? Nice ideas that won't work in reality and Rupert's ego?

Oh do give me a break.

Views From My Cab's avatar

List the countries in which foreign nationals can claim benefits, work for the government or vote.

Pamela Watson's avatar

I AM a British citizen. Restore want to deny me the right to my pension because I am a dual citizen. I could give up being Aussie if I wanted to. Many people from other countries CAN'T do that because their home country won't let them give up that citizenship. But why should I?

Just how the hell can you justify denying a naturalised British citizen the right to the things I mention unless all 4 of their grandparents were born in Britain?

Michael Davison's avatar

The Triple Lock for Pensions was introduced because it finally struck home that ever since 1945, the State Pension has been set deliberately at poverty level to force individuals to beg the State for help, had the advice offered by the Pension experts, a State Pension Fund, managed by the existing pensions industry, with a board made up of 50/50 Government/Pension to guide investment decisions, had the Labour Party listened then, today our State Pension would be a self financed sovereign wealth fund, paying out European level pensions instead of the miserable pittance returned. But you can claim Pension Credit if you have little to no savings, and a myriad of other “benefits”. And before you jump in and say that there are well off pensioners as well as poor pensioners, think of that property you are sat in, worth hundreds of thousands more than you paid for it!, no doubt your suggestion is to go and downsize, downsize to what, a shoddily built “modern” home, ah, well go and get equity release, just watch some smart individual call around and value your property at 50% of its current value………sorry but for all your claims of wisdom, you fail to understand that the root cause of the problems these Nations feet today, is decisions taken in the 1945 Labour landslide and worse still, each and every Labour & Conservative Government since has never changed direction and put the Country first and political parties second- each wanted to be remembered……….hence the mess.

Views From My Cab's avatar

Perhaps.I am too cynical, but I believe that the tripple lock was introduced for electoral gain.

Fornsure the state pension is a mess, mostly because it has been runnas a Ponzi scheme. That's the core problem. Fixing that is not easy, but the tripple lock just expensively kicks the can down the road...

Andrew's avatar

The argument that Restore is best placed to win a massively important by election because it did well in the one council election it stood in is proper hilarious! 🤣

Spiff's avatar

As hilarious as Reform being “anti-immigration”?

David Redfern's avatar

Try reading Reform's emerging manifesto for 2029 and the promises made in their contract for the people in 2024.

If you imagine that Roopert can deport millions of legal immigrants, you are as daft as he is. We can deport the illegals rapidly, but other than by natural wastage and kicking out the visa tourists and criminals, legal migrants are mostly here for the duration.

The country, rightly or wrongly, entered into a legal contract with legal migrants, supported by international law, whether we like that fact or not. Deporting legal migrants would invite billions, if not trillions, of pounds' worth of legal claims, and many of those with British citizenship will be refused entry to their country of origin, and why should any other country take them?

And just how far back do we go? Are we going to deport second- and third-generation immigrants? How about those married to 'naturalised' British citizens and their children? How are they to be dealt with?

We all know what the calls for deportation are about, but no one dares mention it. People are waking up to the threat from Islam, and the cry for mass deportations is code for resisting it.

Spiff's avatar

You are already beaten, friend. I understand. Go ahead and vote for whomever reflects your view and others will do the same. But don't tell the determined what they can and can't do.

David Redfern's avatar

Funny. I recall Advance UK was predicted to do well in the Gorton and Denton by-election. There was an awful lot of bragging by their supporters until they were beaten into 7th place with 154 votes, behind the Monster Raving Looney Party.

Where did I tell anyone what they can and can't do? Evidently your delusion affects your political choices.

Spiff's avatar

Remember, the point of a psyop is to demoralize the enemy. To make him feel he cannot win. To suggest he put down his rifle without a shot being fired.

If you believe we cannot reverse the effects of what has happened then you are correct, you can't and you will vote accordingly.

If you wish to wrap that up in some tactical voting thing then go ahead.

David Redfern's avatar

OK. Explain to me how Roopert's mass deportations work and how many people he'll deport.

If you make sense, I might vote for him.

Martin T's avatar

Not sure about this, would rather a half decent Reform candidate, with Restore and Tories noises off competing for attention with better ideas. The stakes are too high to split the votes and let Labour and Greens and LibDems coalesce in an orgy of righteousness to ‘stop the far right.’

Views From My Cab's avatar

Except Reform doesn’t have a historu od effective candidate selection, which is why they lost the last 2 by elections that they fought, olus the disaster in Wales.

Restore has already announced its candidate, a local business woman. She's already got a following amd already campaigning.

Nicola Lund's avatar

I’ve learnt a new word, thank you Paddy - psephologist.

Every day’s a school day 😉

David Rawson's avatar

Reform are a just a catch party that will do absolutely nothing as will restore

Voting will not get you any were

As for Winston one of the most evilest man to ever live from the Boer war to the creation of Israel

Pamela Watson's avatar

Are you advocating insurrection instead?

James Singlehurst's avatar

I have never been a fan of quiters, Winston surprisingly was one as well. But as The Donald said, you ain't no Winston. Birds of a feather flock together. Thank you and goodbye.